Everything about Mountain Biking in the North East of England

help with new frame for xc/getting into jumps,taking bigger hits etc

Just getting into it a bit more seriously and am needing a new full sus frame anyone got any advice on summit that won't break after me falling off it a few times!!!
I looking for summit that i can ride all day and is as good at going up as coming down
cheers in advance!!!!

▶ Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

Permalink Reply by arron mcgregor on April 12, 2009 at 7:16pm: my friend has a kona coilair a full sus there realy good for up hill and down hill and hill take all impact off the jumps =); ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Filthy on April 12, 2009 at 11:29pm: How much do you want to spend?
If I was looking for something new this would be on my shortlist...
Chumba XCL; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by bobtknob on April 12, 2009 at 11:45pm: arron mcgregor said:
my friend has a kona coilair a full sus there realy good for up hill and down hill and hill take all impact off the jumps =)

Jumps shouldn't give you any impact. Where did you learn English, the BT helpline school of communication?; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by arron mcgregor on April 13, 2009 at 12:15am: ALL OF EDUCATION COMES FROM A TIN OF ALPHABETI SPAGHETTI LOL; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Lee Broon on April 13, 2009 at 7:47am: Filthy said:
How much do you want to spend?
If I was looking for something new this would be on my shortlist...
Chumba XCL

cheers m8 but i've had a quick look on that site and couldn't find a uk distributer...must admit tho that bike looks the nuts; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Chunky on April 13, 2009 at 11:46am: arron mcgregor said:
ALL OF EDUCATION COMES FROM A TIN OF ALPHABETI SPAGHETTI LOL; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Filthy on April 13, 2009 at 12:05pm: Filthy said:
B L Brown said:
Filthy said:
How much do you want to spend?
If I was looking for something new this would be on my shortlist...
Chumba XCL

cheers m8 but i've had a quick look on that site and couldn't find a uk distributer...must admit tho that bike looks the nuts

They are available through progressive bikes in the UK...
Progressive Bikes; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by earthworm jim on April 13, 2009 at 7:01pm: There is a great mis-conseption that riding a full suspension bike can make you a better rider.....
However this couldn't be farther from the truth. A full suspension bike can give you confidence to ride beyond your ability, but you never really learn how to ride smoothly. The skills you learn on a hardtail can be put to even better use on a full susser. Take a certain pro racer Steve Peat, he's been at the top of his game now for nearly 20 years and learnt all his skills on a hard tail (even before v-brakes turned up). He wasn't known as pin ball peaty for nothing.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by arron mcgregor on April 13, 2009 at 7:24pm: well i have started on a hard tail and im getting a full susser on wednesday a old scott fx; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Lee Broon on April 13, 2009 at 10:10pm: earthworm jim said:
There is a great mis-conseption that riding a full suspension bike can make you a better rider.....
However this couldn't be farther from the truth. A full suspension bike can give you confidence to ride beyond your ability, but you never really learn how to ride smoothly. The skills you learn on a hardtail can be put to even better use on a full susser. Take a certain pro racer Steve Peat, he's been at the top of his game now for nearly 20 years and learnt all his skills on a hard tail (even before v-brakes turned up). He wasn't known as pin ball peaty for nothing.

cheers m8 that reply makes sense i think...when it comes to some of the bigger hits my bottle is starting to go so i suppose i'll have to learn how to walk before i can run....you know how it is tho gadgies and new toys :)
just wanted some input from you lot out there as to whats reliable/recommended etc!!!; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by MARK on April 14, 2009 at 6:22am: I agree with Jim,I ride a full susser and cant jump properley for shit,I tend to just hit and hope.Also I can bunny hop,manual etc.. way easier on a hardtail.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by psycho on April 14, 2009 at 9:17am: Before I begin ,this is meant to be constructive and informative and is in no way directed at or meant to offend anyone .
(now your scared lol)

I have been riding Bikes agressively (not cycling thats a different ball game altogether)for about 30 years,progressing from messing around on home made off roaders to racing BMX then on to street Bmx and eventually ending up as what I would call a Biker (freeriding is just what I like to calla MAG TAG invented to sell bikes )

most xc riders are capable of dropping a few kerbs without donning full body armour and a full faced lid and the average teeny tearaway can jump ten feet off an old door propped up on a pile of bricks but when it comes to progression most riders go from zero to hero in two bikes.

scenario one
bored 20/30 something buys average bike goes out with the lads a few times gets hooked,starts adding a few small jumps and drops in to thier xc tootles,gets more hooked .Immediately spends way too much on an over engineered bike with all of the bells and whistles and viola they are instantly as good as peaty and the like.

scenario two.

Teen gets bike off santa ,rides around a bit ,finds some jumps in the woods ,breaks self and or bike .upgrades to better bike (parents are proud to suport new hobby),teen demands latest bike o the month as seen on pinkbike etc.
Teen is instantly a top slopestyle rider and is therefore indestructable just like the guys on the videos who manage every thing first time.

reality.
every rider who appears on the race ,slopestyle,bmx or video circuit didn't get there without a bit of work (apart from your prodigy types ).

I always bang on to people about what I call "core bike skills" Skills that can only be gained by riding.
ride xc to get a good sense of balance and learn to control a bike in different situations.

If you want to jump dont head off to gossy trails to that 20 footer, lob off a few kerbs, find a small jump or roller and practice on it until you feel comfortable riding it.
old stle bmx tracks such as belmont are a great place to train on safe jumps.
but walk before you run.
as for dh/freeride you don't have to go big to haver fun and you have to ask yourself are you riding that imposssible off camber shail to test yourself or to impress your mates ?
ask the majority of the walking wounded among the Nefa massif how many hospital visits we had last year mainly from overstepping our skills base .

I welcome all new riders to our sport/Hobby and encourage progression
I am always happy to help our advise in any way
but I do wish that some would take the reality test and ask themselves who are they riding for.

My advice to you is buy any small light hardtail (back country type) with 100/120 mm forks
or a mid range short travel full suss.
shin/knee pads
good helmet
visit as many different types of trail as you can.
don't overtry
do have lots of laughs; ▶ Reply to This